Harsh Jain built Dream11 from a family business detour and a love of fantasy football into a company that reached 300 million users. Then PROGA happened, and brought the business he'd spent 17 years building to a halt.

This conversation isn't about the rise. It's about what comes after – how you grieve something you built, how you decide whether to fight or pivot, and how you keep 1,000 people from walking out the door.

The questions Avnish and Harsh wrestle with:

1. Do you really need an original idea, or do you need to be obsessed with a problem?

2. What's the difference between being in love with your company and just being attracted to the outcome?

3. How do you keep going after 150 investor rejections — and is "keep going" always the right answer?

4. What do you do when the nuclear bomb falls on everything you built?

5. Can culture actually survive catastrophe, or does it only exist in the good times?

In the end culture is the only thing that scales. Not the product or funding. The team and whether you built something worth staying for.